How governing boards can be effective in serving Jesus Christ? Effective elder boards should protect the vision and values of the church, the elder board and the pastor. In this section of the lecture "Real Churches Call Empowering Elders" Richard Thompson:

- explains the difference between  catfish,  dragons and wolves;

- highlights that not every problem in the church is a wolf;

- quotes Chuck Swindoll who uses a catfish as a metaphor; 

- talks about three kinds of  leaders or pastors.